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Deceitful Penguin posted:

And I'm sorry if I seem dismissive of Boy Nier, it's just that it's professed themes do not catch me as do the themes of fatherhood. I however am interested in knowing how the party dynamic is different with him, because like you said, it isn't just a texture swap. How does he fit in the party dynamic? (Also, how old do you think our lovely lass is supposed to be? Or have you found out already? I thought it was hilarious)

I don't mind if people are dismissive or negative towards Brother Nier, that's a perfectly fine opinion to hold and admittedly he's a very annoying character for half the game (which I swear Cavia did on purpose). The payoff of him as a character isn't readily apparent like Father Nier's either. I just find it rather frustrating when I read sites like GameFAQs or Kotaku or even on the Games thread for Nier about people who hate on him just because he's a teenager/young man. It's judging a book by its cover, so to speak. That's why I try to explain things about Brother Nier, so that some people can see at least a little how he's more unique and different than what people might see at first glance.

The whole relationship with the party is different in the sense that Kaine and Weiss generally tend to hold disbelief towards Brother Nier and second guess him a lot more. He's a teenager of course and they're both older than him, so stuff like "do you know what you're doing, kid?!" comes out a lot more. It kind of links in with Brother's perspective of the older adults in the village, who do the same sort of thing to him on a regular basis with "I can't believe a little boy like you fights Shades!" or whatever. It's part of the divide in Japan with children and adults compared to the one with children themselves.

Weiss comes off more like an irritated babysitter at times, many of those little tirades he goes on at Father Nier end up sounding more like frustrated lectures to him. Like Weiss sees a chance to change the young boy into a "proper" grown up and is trying to influence him, if only so he'll stop farming 7 Shark Butts to give to the grocer. Kaine is a little weirder though, she's kind of new at this point in the story and hasn't really had time to grow yet.